Rocky Gerung Give a Relaxing Response, Ali Ngabalin Angry to drop Microphone
ChannelNasional. Presidential Staff Expert Ali Mochtar Ngabalin repeatedly debated political observer Rocky Gerung while at the Indonesia Lawyers Club (ILC) TvOne program on Tuesday morning.
Not only arguing, Ali Ngabalin also looked angry at Rocky Gerung.
This started when Rocky Gerung who conducted a video teleconference as a speaker expressed his opinion about the theme discussed, namely the Cardboard Sound Box.
Rocky considers the cardboard ballot boxes to be publicly questioned, even since the 2014 general election, because according to the KPU the box was already used during the election.
"Why is it not questioned in 2014? It has been questioned from the start, but at that time the 2014 ballot box was going to be turned away, so it was made more difficult to look at, but now the thief is in the ballot box, that's the problem, it's a system that will cheat," said Rocky Gerung
"So the public algorithm will say a protest to a symbol called cardboard, so that's actually me, so what is making noise, this is the DPR's political decision, this is true but the people don't believe that decision is correct."
"Why do you look at me, Ngabalin? Want an interruption please," said Rocky who stopped talking then saw Ali Ngabalin looking at him sharply as if he wanted to speak something.
Ali Ngabalin also argued that what Rocky Gerung conveyed did not represent what was conveyed by the public.
"Rocky Gerung listened carefully to my words, how do you count about how warm people are not."
"As a person who has good intellectuals, people believe in you in the public interest to give them a sense of optimism how can you take one survey of conclusions that there will be fraud in the election ?," said Ngabalin.
"Hay Rocky, where do you think normally? You shouldn't be like someone who has good knowledge," he added.
Ali Ngabalin also admitted that his arrival at ILC on the theme was deliberately intended to meet Rocky Gerung.
However, unfortunately they could not meet face to face because Rocky was the source of the teleconference while Ali Ngabalin was in the ILC studio.
"I frankly come here because I know you are in this dialogue, too bad you are in Makassar."
"I want to say that this is your lie that is not repeated you should not lie to the public, you make people not optimistic in the upcoming elections, be careful there are people KPU lo."
"Try to use healthy thinking, you always use the word dun ** - dun ** - dun **, then you see me tonight, I can't," Ngabalin said, starting to get angry at Rocky.
Knowing he was scolded by Ali Ngabalin, Rocky casually responded.
"Continue," Rocky said casually.
"There is nothing to go on, your brain must be repaired, your narrative is not good and your dikes underestimate the system that is built, be careful," Ngabalin said, pointing at Rocky Gerung.
After saying the sentence, Ngabalin still looked annoyed until he unconsciously slammed the microphone to the table in front of him. A microphone that is in a lit position is heard.
Rocky Gerung returned casually to respond to Ali Ngabalin.
He also felt that he was being scolded and thought Ali Ngabalin was like an officer in the morning apple ceremony.
"I continued, that just now the Ngabalin brothers practiced the Apple Standby ceremony, angry in front of the camera," Rocky said casually.
The ILC discussion about the cardboard box that has been used since the previous 2014 elections has also been delivered by the Chairperson of the KPU, Arief Budiman.
In fact, the ballot box has been used more than three times during the Election of Regional Heads (Pilkada).
"Water-proof cardboard boxes are not new but have been done in the 2014 presidential election, 2015 elections, 2017 and 2018," Arief said at the Open Plenary Meeting of the DPTHP-2 Recapitulation at Menara Peninsula Hotel, West Jakarta, Saturday
Not only arguing, Ali Ngabalin also looked angry at Rocky Gerung.
This started when Rocky Gerung who conducted a video teleconference as a speaker expressed his opinion about the theme discussed, namely the Cardboard Sound Box.
Rocky considers the cardboard ballot boxes to be publicly questioned, even since the 2014 general election, because according to the KPU the box was already used during the election.
"Why is it not questioned in 2014? It has been questioned from the start, but at that time the 2014 ballot box was going to be turned away, so it was made more difficult to look at, but now the thief is in the ballot box, that's the problem, it's a system that will cheat," said Rocky Gerung
"So the public algorithm will say a protest to a symbol called cardboard, so that's actually me, so what is making noise, this is the DPR's political decision, this is true but the people don't believe that decision is correct."
"Why do you look at me, Ngabalin? Want an interruption please," said Rocky who stopped talking then saw Ali Ngabalin looking at him sharply as if he wanted to speak something.
Ali Ngabalin also argued that what Rocky Gerung conveyed did not represent what was conveyed by the public.
"Rocky Gerung listened carefully to my words, how do you count about how warm people are not."
"As a person who has good intellectuals, people believe in you in the public interest to give them a sense of optimism how can you take one survey of conclusions that there will be fraud in the election ?," said Ngabalin.
"Hay Rocky, where do you think normally? You shouldn't be like someone who has good knowledge," he added.
Ali Ngabalin also admitted that his arrival at ILC on the theme was deliberately intended to meet Rocky Gerung.
However, unfortunately they could not meet face to face because Rocky was the source of the teleconference while Ali Ngabalin was in the ILC studio.
"I frankly come here because I know you are in this dialogue, too bad you are in Makassar."
"I want to say that this is your lie that is not repeated you should not lie to the public, you make people not optimistic in the upcoming elections, be careful there are people KPU lo."
"Try to use healthy thinking, you always use the word dun ** - dun ** - dun **, then you see me tonight, I can't," Ngabalin said, starting to get angry at Rocky.
Knowing he was scolded by Ali Ngabalin, Rocky casually responded.
"Continue," Rocky said casually.
"There is nothing to go on, your brain must be repaired, your narrative is not good and your dikes underestimate the system that is built, be careful," Ngabalin said, pointing at Rocky Gerung.
After saying the sentence, Ngabalin still looked annoyed until he unconsciously slammed the microphone to the table in front of him. A microphone that is in a lit position is heard.
Rocky Gerung returned casually to respond to Ali Ngabalin.
He also felt that he was being scolded and thought Ali Ngabalin was like an officer in the morning apple ceremony.
"I continued, that just now the Ngabalin brothers practiced the Apple Standby ceremony, angry in front of the camera," Rocky said casually.
The ILC discussion about the cardboard box that has been used since the previous 2014 elections has also been delivered by the Chairperson of the KPU, Arief Budiman.
In fact, the ballot box has been used more than three times during the Election of Regional Heads (Pilkada).
"Water-proof cardboard boxes are not new but have been done in the 2014 presidential election, 2015 elections, 2017 and 2018," Arief said at the Open Plenary Meeting of the DPTHP-2 Recapitulation at Menara Peninsula Hotel, West Jakarta, Saturday
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